How Many Quarts E40d Filter Change

Topic: E4od fluid modify

Posted By: stew47 on 03/20/15 ten:47pm Well before heading to Georgia next week I started looking things over. Fluids, air, and things. Well I pulled the tranny dipstick on motor home for first time since ownership last twelvemonth. Doesn't look red anymore. Thinking might too do a filter and fluid change. Spent this night doing some research and what I've establish is
For the 97 e4od Mercon v is now recommended?

I will probably need longer filter?

How many quarts anyone know?

Napa filter and mercon v ok?

Thanks everyone in advance

Posted Past: time2roll on 03/20/xv 11:47pm If you have a drain plug in the pan I would apply that and skip the filter.
More of import is to also drain the torque converter. 1997 should have a TC drain plug.
I recall my transmission (4r70w) is like and I use Mobil 1 synthetic. I call up it is about xiii quarts for pan and TC.

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Posted By: cpaulsen on 03/21/15 04:49am Mercon V is right. If you do have a drain plug in the pan....bleed information technology then pull the pan off. Pull the torque convertor cover off and rotate the torque convertor till you run into the drain on it....remove that drain plug. Modify the filter....put the plugs back in and fill up. Should accept near 17-18 quarts.

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Posted By: John&Joey on 03/21/15 05:00am You will not take a drain pan plug.

I took mine in to have information technology done in one case I found out it took something like 17 quarts and the local shop merely wanted $110 to do the complete job.

They left the filter in and did your basic bucket manual fluid change. After 35K miles the fluid was yet nice and pink with no burnt smell.

They put in what the dipstick told them to utilize.

Posted By: MEXICOWANDERER on 03/21/15 06:09am For some reason Ford uses chicken wire grade filters - really screens. I would go to NAPA and inquire to see a filter. To me changing chicken wire is an exercise in uselessness. But I heartily endorse draining the torque converter. When dinosaurs ruled the earth and I did a stint at a Plymouth agency, I discovered torque converters bleed real tedious. I hope yours drains faster than the old MoPar A727 and A904 did. Ford C4 and C6 Converters drained slow as well.

17 quarts is more than four gallons. Fix yourself! I used to see if I could leave a drain pan in llace then dorsum the finished job away from the filled bleed pan. Depends on crossmember and tie rod clearance. Dragging a pan from beneath a rig meant slopping drained oil all over. And overfilling a transmission is a no-no.

Hope this helps

Posted By: John&Joey on 03/21/15 07:32am Again I hired mine out on the quondam 460. What they did (every bit I remember) was disconnect a tranny line (from the libation?) put on a clear tube then ran it into a five gallon saucepan. Ane guy started the MH while another guy watched for air bubbles. When he saw them he shouted out and the other guy shut 'er down. Filled her upwards, and accuse me that $110.

Posted By: Tiger02 on 03/21/15 07:46am What John&Joey said. I use Schaeffer'south all trans supreme myself, but the method of disconnecting the return cooling line at the rear of the trans is by far the easiest and cleanest method out at that place if y'all're a DIY type. Takes about 18 quarts total (well-nigh 2 are wasted) only it completely replaces all the trans fluid and takes little fourth dimension.

I use a articulate hose to a saucepan sitting by the driver's door and so I can watch as the fluid stops running and plough the engine off. I also bicycle the gear selector through all the ranges to get fluid through the whole tranny. I and then then refresh the pan through the dipstick tube with the same quantity that came out. Use a bucket with quart markings so if five quarts come out then y'all put 5 quarts back in. You know you're expert when the fluid coming out of the tube is dainty and bright ruddy.

Or just have it to a service shop. Good luck.

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Posted By: Gjac on 03/21/15 09:33am I take done mine 3 times in 100,000 miles. The first change showed a lot of metal powder stuck to the inside magnet so cleaned that off and changed the filter then did what Jon Joey described to go the fluid out of the torque converter. I used white tissue with make clean trans fluid to compare with the old trans fluid. When the fluid coming out of the line looked the same as my sample I stopped. On the second change there was less metal fillings stuck to the magnet,the tertiary alter was fifty-fifty less. The lessen I learned was reuse the original OEM gasket rather than the new gasket that comes in the kit. I used the new gasket and the pan leaked even when I re torqued pan bolts. I concluded up putting the old 1 back on, information technology had steel bushing effectually each pigsty preventing pan distortion the new gasket was just prophylactic.

Posted By: CloudDriver on 03/21/15 09:57am If you desire to do information technology yourself here are detailed instructions. The instructions apply to both the 4R100 and E40D transmissions.

I accept washed this myself twice in the driveway and had no issues. A fluid change is due again before our next trip. Never bothered to drib the pan.

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Posted By: jasult on 03/21/fifteen 11:52am

CloudDriver wrote:

If yous desire to exercise it yourself here are detailed instructions. The instructions utilize to both the 4R100 and E40D transmissions.

I have washed this myself twice in the driveway and had no issues. A fluid alter is due again before our next trip. Never bothered to drop the pan.

This is the mode it should exist done. It is proven method on many Ford forums and the manner I do my three OBS Fords

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Posted By: stew47 on 03/21/15 01:54pm Cheers for all the replys! I ended upwards draining torque converter, dropping pan, ( I don't retrieve I'd been satisfied not dropping it. There wasn't much metal on magnet) ( atf certainly more brown than scarlet!) now I have nearly 12 quarts poured back in and it'southward then difficult to read dipstick right now. Appears to be halfway up cold department. Non sure how many more to dump in yet.

Posted Past: westend on 03/21/15 02:00pm

stew47 wrote:

Thanks for all the replys! I ended up draining torque converter, dropping pan, ( I don't think I'd been satisfied not dropping it. There wasn't much metal on magnet) ( atf certainly more than chocolate-brown than cherry!) at present I have virtually 12 quarts poured back in and it'south so difficult to read dipstick right now. Appears to exist halfway upward cold section. Not sure how many more than to dump in yet.

Do you know how much you drained? What I do is put back in a close amount to what I've drained (less than), start the engine, shift through the gears, and fill up by what the dipstick tells me with engine running.

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Posted By: stew47 on 03/21/15 02:11pm Well I dumped into a v gallon bucket but in that location's no marks on it. Also I tin't account for large spill on ground LOL. I actually didn't spill much simply why didn't ford see a reason for drain plug. I'll probably run through gears because I didn't think of that and see where we are. Maybe drive a footling and keep an centre on it.

Posted By: stew47 on 03/21/fifteen 03:21pm thirteen qts in and believe it's bottom of cold range while running and in park.

Posted By: cpaulsen on 03/22/fifteen 03:06am

stew47 wrote:

Well I dumped into a v gallon bucket simply there's no marks on it. Also I can't account for large spill on footing LOL. I actually didn't spill much but why didn't ford encounter a reason for drain plug. I'll probably run through gears because I didn't recall of that and see where we are. Peradventure drive a picayune and keep an middle on information technology.

Would accept thought in that location would have been a drain plug....sorry! Only....simply take all the pan bolts except 2...usually the back ii and then loosen them till the fluid starts to come the pan that is tilted downward...that way yous have very piffling fluid to spill.